_stickfigure_ 13 years ago #5. Crawdaunt is a great HM slave in the Pokemon game series. If you have access to a cheat device, just use two Mews. 1 Answer. Well for HG and SS I'm transferring my level 63 and level 100 Linoones with pick-up as HM slaves, made it through HG without Linoone ever having to battle and now all my teaam is early 70's and Linoone is still on Level 63. Head to the appropriate page from Pokémon games in the menu. This brings us to this ranking of the best HM Slaves in Kanto. Just switch your HM slave in and out of your PC whenever you need one. Tyazinzard 14 years ago #19. Below we list every Pokémon available in Generation 4 with the HMs they can learn in HeartGold & SoulSilver. So if you have a Charizard, you can use fly even if you don't teach it that move. now thoes are 2 good hm slave strategys. The best HM Slaves that can be found in Hoenn are Linoone and Sharpedo. Introduction. For Alpha Sapphire, go with Zigzagoon/Linoone. EJ902 14 years ago #5. No, Mew is, but Dragonite's pretty good, too, as it can learn every HM. Pokémon Gold & Silver added two new HMs to the five from Generation 1 - both used in water. Not changing my signature until America deals with its B. Guizinho111 · 1/28/2018 in Pokémon Help. but I find a team of 6 equally powerful Pokemon a slightly better advantage than just 5 and an HM slave who won't be able to much. sandslash. If you want an HM slave, I highly recommend catching a Nidoran outside of Goldenrod. rampardose. My personal favorite combo is Charizard + Slowpoke/Slowbro because you get all the HMs, and can also include 2 Digs, Teleport, and Pay Day if wanted. NNID: Surgemaster140 | 3DS FC: 0044 - 3133 - 9479. BIBARELL IS HM GOD!!! but it can't learn flash, as OP specified. #5. It just had to be in party. Can't get hm slave in Pokemon Pearl? machop is a good hm slave. Amewsment Mewsic to your ears! Joined Jun 23, 2008. As such, players often made it, so Bibarel only had HM moves. I hope this helps. 2 votes. Element-17 15 years ago #3. Dk bout other gens but Gen I you can do Slowpoke/bro and Farfetch’d. 13rucezzz 10 years ago #4. 3DS FC: 3110-4305-9818. They can both easily be caught pre-elite 4, and between them can learn all 8 HMs. - Tropius for Cut, Fly, Strength, and Flash - Marill for Surf, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Dive Magcargo ((HM Support Ability: Flame Body EVs: 248 HP / 8 Atk / 252 SpD Careful Nature - Rock Smash - Strength - Will-O-Wisp - Stockpile HM SLAVE Pelipper Ability: Keen Eye - Fly - Surf J Smeargle (can learn everything) Dragonite (Fly Waterfall Streght etc etc) Golduck (Flash, Surf etc etc) Zigzagoon Level: 100 I was wondering who the two best non-legendary HM slaves are in Fire Red that can be obtained without much difficulty. Additionally, Whirlpool is a waste of a move slot on Dragonite when it could have a better non-HM move. Thus Aerodactly isn't bad: Fly, Rock Smash, strength. There are only a small handful of spots with Cut trees, so you really don't need a Cut slave. What Megas do. u can transfer a bibarel from platinum to blaclk/white as it is the best hm slave whcih can learn all movesSwampert (Rock Climb, Strength, Surf and Whirlpool) and Skarmory (Rock Smash, Fly, Cut and Flash) are my HM slaves. The best HM Slave in the history of Pokemon, and one that's available in X and Y, is Bibarel, the evolved form of Bidoof. 56. It comes at a pretty high cost, and for a good reason. [deleted] • 4 yr. HMs are generally fine for in-game purposes. Nidoking/Nidoqueen (Cut, Surf, Strength, & Rock Smash) Meowth (Cut & Flash) Paras (Cut & Flash) Krabby (Cut, Surf, Strength, & Rock Smash) Marill (Strength/Waterfall/Dive [Rock Smash/Surf]) Zigzagoon (Cut/Surf/Rock Smash) Pick Up is a decent ability to take along! For Fire Red I didn't use dedicated HM slaves, too lazy to look up what pokémon could fill the role. He can learn all HM moves. Trait - Blaze. In addition to what Technical Machines do — teaching Pokémon certain attacks anytime the player wants, they also grant important functions outside of battles such that players cannot complete the game without them. . Paulas Choice–SKIN PERFECTING 2% BHA Liquid Salicylic Acid Exfoliant–Facial Exfoliant for Blackheads, Enlarged Pores, Wrinkles & Fine Lines, 4 oz BottleIf you don't want to use your starter for this/picked another, Basculin can also learn all of those sans Strength. Didn’t really use one for cut in johto but I need to restore the power plant and stuff for the magnet train ;-; Furret/geodude works fine. Whirlpool. I take him with those moves; as well as secret power for the bases, and any water type for the 3 water HMs. Y'know what, just bring two that allow you to use everything but Waterfall. Both can learn Dig, surf, strength, i think waterfall and rock smash aswell. 5. having HM slaves take up the limited space on your team. Dragonite. I was wondering, what is the best early and solid HM slave you could get? First time playing gen4 so not that much knowledge on it. Also, there's only 8 usable HMs. commented Jun 4, 2019 by PearlPalkiaGaming edited Jun 5, 2019 by Fizz📽️Subscribe here! is the best Pokemon to use as an HM specialist in every Pokemon game (that has HMs)?💸Patreon for exclusive. PSN - Darigandevil (Vita and Ps3) Black 2 - 2753-3440-3329. Like there are so few ways and most are a bunch of work or Money. Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. View source. ago. HM means you either have have to waste a move slot on each of your pokémon or have a HM slave, wasting a team member slot. In stats, bidoof. Your the government's problem now!"-Homer and Marge, The Simpsons. For a field HM slave, try Charizard. I think the best HM mules are Psyduck and either Braviary or Mandibuzz. 5th gen wasnt fully unnecessary to carry hm. Welcome to the Masquerade. It's an hm SLAVE and can learn most hm moves aside from fly and defog i think. Because it's annoying having HM slaves, I cheated a big and traded over the two for my playthrough SoulSilver. 1. 4. Dragonite. I like Farfetch'd because he can learn Fly and Cut. You can catch a Sentret on route 70, and then you can evolve it. Imagine like 125 Atk/Def and 30 spatk and spdef or something with 90 speed. You can only get him post game so it's kinda of a waste. Link to comment. Piranha Plant isn't from a dead series. 2nd gen i used krabby for surf/cut/strength/whirlpool and tentacool for whirlpool/waterfall/surf (though most waters do this) 3rd gen Tropius, cut/flash/fly/strength (or rock smash) 4th bibarel, easily. I really can't think of much to put here, so conversation away! Questions to get you started (feel free to suggest): Do you use HM slaves or do you share the load among the team. For years and years HMs were a necessary evil in the Pokémon games, but we were clever and found ways around that; namely by creating the HM Slave who only e. Sharpedo is objectively the best. It also has Pickup. Gengar10000 13 years ago #9. ccviridian • 5 yr. This Pokémon can learn every known HM with the exception of Fly, and it. As silly as Bidoof looks, his Bibarel evolution distinguishes itself from starting mammals like Raticate and. commented Feb 19, 2020 by Fizz 2 Answers 1 vote Best answer My source shows that a lot of people agree on four good HM users: Bibarel, Skarmory, Tropius, and Rhydon. Where to find the HMs in X/Y. Bibarel is hands down the best HM slave. He's a great HM slave though. Nidoking/Nidoqueen (Cut, Surf, Strength, & Rock Smash) Meowth (Cut & Flash) Paras (Cut & Flash) Krabby (Cut, Surf, Strength,. The HMs were once again changed in this generation - HM06 was changed from Whirlpool to Rock Smash, and HM08 Dive was added. Linoone (and Zigzagoon) continue to reign supreme as the best and most reliable. Cut, Surf, and Strength. Flamethrower because of PP, and Amnesia since this is just in-game, where Thunder Wave isn't as useful (but can still be chosen). Golduck has webbed feet, making it a fast swimmer. Sharpedo is the fastest surfer though. : r/pokemon. 5 3. I'm not sure, but Swanna and Pelipper can learn Fly or Surf. Where to find the HMs in HeartGold/SoulSilver. 5. In Pt I used Bidoof/Bibarel and just levelled him up with Rock Smash/Strength/Cut and. We need some HM slave appreciation. •Whirlpool-Pokemon Gold, Silver and Crystal, and HG SS in order to get to. Bibarel is your best HM and TM slave without Flash (Cut, Dig, Surf, Rock Climb, Covet/Thief, Strength, Waterfall, Rock Smash, Dive) I use Kingler if cut needed or Quagsire if Flash is needed. ago. To help you choose the finest hm slave heartgold available on the market, we have produced a detailed guide. Gyarados as an HM slave on this game is disgraceful. Best answer. Jul 18, 2008 #16 Bibarel : cut/strength/rock smash/rock climb Linoone is good too, but my linoone is for stealing items. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. I'd rather just sack a move on a Pokemon to get a better one in my party than an HM slave that's useless in battle. Flash is not an HM in HG/SS, I know, but it's still needed and my Feraligatr already has Waterfall as part of it's DD moveset, so it all works great. 1 vote. Pokémon Gold & Silver added two new HMs to the five from Generation 1 - both used in water. You can catch a Weedle as soon as you get to Route 30. Well, bidoof's stats end up being the strongest, with a base total of 250. machamp. It's written in JavaScript to ensure cross-system. . TheSmarts 10 years ago #9. Cut: Virbank City (from Roxie) Fly: Route 5 (from Bianca) Surf: Route 6. Mooj_Starfury 15 years ago #6. 2. s. of school!" "Ha ha ha. Other options: Beedrill: If you must explore the Dark Cave as soon as possible, Beedrill may be your best choice. 3. jolly_pickles 14 years ago #4. Technically the best HM slave is Mew. Strangely, the HM Dive is not available, nor are there any areas in which it can be used. Once it evolves into Crawdaunt, a ton of. The funniest thing is that Yamcha is still in the team, he became an HM slave. ago. matt-nicklin posted. 1. )-Sliced. They have. Farfetch'd - cut - fly Best. but they're probably not what you're looking for. rojse 8 years ago #6. Btw, the Victreebell is actually an Excadrill. If you have a Golduck and Tropius, then you can teach those two all 8 HMs. That way you can still limit when the player can get to certain areas without restricting their party selection. surgemaster140 8 years ago #4. For a cave HM slave, use Raichu. 6. It also learns every HM, heals itself automatically, and has some neat ability to top it off. The coolest looking HM Slaves for sure though. 19. silver_knux 14 years ago #3. gbchaosmaster 14 years ago #2. Other hms tho work without having an hm slave. Bibarel is probably the best HM slave in existence. Solid_Snake420. HM slaves will typically have all four move slots occupied with field moves, allowing smooth passage through caves, across. Pockets |. Business, Economics, and Finance. However, I would like to delete some of the HM moves (so I can give Feraligatr a move like Earthquake instead of Cut) and put them all on one or two particular Pokemon. This is useful for deciding. The water HMs work as moves along with fly, so I’ll let those pass. History. We would like to show you a description here but the site won’t allow us. Michael answered: I would say the best HM Slave in FireRed would be Gyarados. It fulfills the ideal requirements for an HM mule in that it can learn four HMs: Surf, Waterfall, Dive, and. •Dive-Only compulsory in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. What pokemon did you guys use or find really reliable for each generation's collection of HMs? 125K subscribers 230K views 3 years ago HM Slaves are a common practice among the fans of Pokémon; after all, you need someone to use all of those Hidden Machines. Like in Pokémon Red & Blue, Krabby can learn Cut, Strength, and Surf. " Mousse9 8 years ago #4. Dragonit is great, but is difficult to opbtain. LeviJones 15 years ago #2. Most Water and Grass types are good choices, namely Gyarados and Tropius. Therefore, if you decide that having HM Slaves is perfectly legal, then that is just another rule you have imposed. Trying to find a good hm slave for Kanto. The only bad thing about Marill is that it can't learn fly, so it works well along with any team that already has a fly user. You don't have to teach it to use it. Gyarados can learn four out of the seven HM's in FireRed ( Surf, Rock Smash, Waterfall, and Strength ). Below we list every Pokémon available in Generation 4 with the HMs they can learn in Diamond, Pearl & Platinum. Bibarel - Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb, Cut. TM27 (Return) If you have a Pokémon that’s still using their generic initial move like Tackle or Pound, Return is a better option. ago. More than that, he makes arguably the best HM slave yet, as Bidoof are available very early in Sinnoh, are easily caught, and (after turning into Bibarel) can eventually learn a plethora of HM attacks. The Official Odin of the Shin Megami Tensei IV board. kirbymuncher 11 years ago #4. Defog. ago. HM Locations. It can also learn Rock Smash, which is still a TM in this generation, but it's very useful. 360 GT: Doom. 19. EJ902 14 years ago #5. Miruhog and Doyruzu can learn 2 - Cut, and Strength. Can Raticate learn surf? Furret is the better HM Slave of the two because it can learn three HM moves over Raticate’s two. Skarmory. tropius is also a good hm slave. Fly, Surf, and sometimes even Strength are all useful battle moves in the game, so all you need is something that can Cut and Flash. •Waterfall- Needed to get to Victory Road in most games. Flamethrower because of PP, and Amnesia since this is just in-game, where Thunder Wave isn't as useful (but can still be chosen). Be the very best in Sinnoh!. Or vigoroth. The reason being is he can actually USE that Attack stat. This keeps you from having less move slots to choose from. Element-17 12 years ago #2. Not sure what pokemon can learn both of those besides Mew. Best Pokémon Red, Blue & Yellow HM Slaves. Is the pal Park end game as well, it's probably one of the best choices but not really viable without some kind of exploit. TM-wise, it should be taught Scald very soon and potentially Rain Dance at level 34. It is known as the Pokémon which resembles armor. Krabby can learn Cut, Surf, Strength, and Rock Smash. You needn't worry about Rock Smash or Rock Climb or what have you, as they've lost their HM status for this game. B/W really removed the need for HM slaves. I started to play it today, and I'm gonna plan wich pokémon are going to be in my team. Insert any pokemon that can learn Fly and Defog (DPP) at the lowest level possible. Pokémon Yellow keeps everything the same. I know HMs aren't so important in this Gen but I wonder what you guys use. You can also replace Swampert with Bibarel. Do you even use a HM Slave? For Platinum I use Bidoof for Cut, Strength, Rock Smash and Rock Climb and teach Starly Fly and Defog. Linoone was one of my best pokemon in my first run of emerald. -Henry Louis Mencken. Boards. . knows false swipe, soak, spore and ingrain. (comes in handy in R/B/Y for facing Articuno if you give it a different fourth move) In the Third Generation games, he's still pretty good, because he can learn: Surf. Reply. Best. Tentacool: Cut, Surf, Dive, Whirlpool, Waterfall. The Surf HM is Corsola's best Water-type STAB move, with Strength and Rock Smash providing HM utility. Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats. I know, I’m a hypocrite. The “best hm pokémon fire red” is a question about which Pokémon can learn all HM moves in the game. It can learn Cut , Strength , Rock Smash ,. Charizard @ Charcoal/Sharp Beak. Soaring was the best part of ORAS and not because it was fun, or added all those new places, but because I no longer have to forcibly work a Pokémon that knows fly into my team. . However, Tropius is probably the best HM slave because it learns Cut, Fly, Strength, Rock Smash, and Flash (all the non-water HMs). Just switch your HM slave in and out of your PC whenever you need one. 2. I've since learned (with some googling and also via this thread) that there are other good choices for HM slave, too, and that Tropius can be used legitimately with the right moveset. 3DS FC: 5370-0398-2889. Sludge Bomb may have decent power, but it's still not worth using ingame just to hit Exeggutor (or nothing at all). Rock Smash, Strength, Dive, Waterfall, and the fastest Surf in the game. Most HMs aren't good in battle, anyway (except Surf). My only shiny I have is a shiny bidoof, it must be a sign from the gods. >Hope I helped. A samurott can learn all the HMs except fly. It also learns every HM, heals itself automatically, and has some neat ability to top it off. Add your answer. then aqua for surf and waterfall. missing yamu since he didn't wanna show up in the safari zone and then the evolved forms of a bit of stuff. Dec 10, 10 at 5:00pm (PST) ^. The two together can cover everything, and each of them on their own can learn quite a few. Psyduck's another good one, he can. darkninja77 15 years ago #4. NarutoFever1 13 years ago #6. Krabby is obtainable before using any HMs and can learn 5 different HMs without evolving, so Krabby is the single best HM slave in HGSS. 4. Fly is completely optional, as usual, but you won’t have access to the soaring feature until after the 8th gym. Gyarados is. Can you still access yellow forest to get the flying pikachu? 3 posts, 11/6 8:29AM. for damages!" Lootenstein 13 years ago #7. (Not all of these are HM moves but they are still. . Luckily you don't need more than say three HMs at a time so it worked out. Victreebel has better options than Acid: Razor Leaf. In the end though, If I find I no longer need an HM (after all. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. Cryptocomments sorted by Best Top New Controversial Q&A Add a Comment . Magmar, while outclassed as an HM Slave, can use its decent speed, offensive stats and movepool to reliably and quickly sweep the Elite 4, which is the fastest way of generating money in all Gen 3 games. I use Rayquaza for Fly so that HM isn't needed in any others. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four spots for good moves on other Pokémon. This is especially true if youre looking for an alternative to the usuals. ago. Krabby is obtainable before using any HMs and can learn 5 different HMs without evolving, so Krabby is the single best HM slave in HGSS. Tai (Platinum) - 4683 4348 4300. In the first Gen, Mew is by far the best HM slave for getting about. Sunlitnevada10 • The 2001 Chevy impala is an all in one vehicle Reply reply KoltorTheGreat • Tbh I'll never regret buying the HM flutes, so nice not having an HM slave. It learns four HMs in Generation II, including two of the most useless, Flash and Whirlpool. A solo-run is essentially a version of the game where you invent your own rules to follow. But can also easily be swapped for a Sharpedo later. HM's and Field Moves:-SURF -WATERFALL -WHIRLPOOL -ROCK SMASH -HEADBUTT -TELEPORT -FLY -ROCK CLIMB -DIG-MILK DRINK -SOFTBOILED -CUT -STRENGTH -FLASH DIG = useful and awesome, rather a must to have on something as it makes ESCAPE ROPE "useless"; give an EVERSTONE to a Diglett or use TM 28 on an ONIX. between these pokes, find a good combo that lets you minimize your slaves to 2. tenorsaxuf 13 years ago #10. New, casual, players introduced in the last few years and played latest games have never experienced hm slaves. re: Best HM Slave? Bibarel and Tropius are the best two to use. Krabby/Kingler are the best HM mules for use throughout the game, as this time, Krabby can be caught with the Old Rod in locations like Route 40. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. *fistbump*. ago. What is the best HM slave early in the game of Pokemon crystal? What is an 'HM Slave'? powerful hm slave pokemon. Smeargle. Major Battles:. . The best team: - Jirachi, can get before second gym doing a sidequest. Gunbladelad 12 years ago #4. ninjawalruses • 10 yr. Hidden Machines (HMs) in FireRed/LeafGreen. Pancham is pretty good early on, Strength, Cut, Rock Smash and Surf. But reading this thread Tropius seems like a better choice then Farfetch'd. Check the Bulbagarden home page for up-to-date Pokémon news and discuss it on the forums or in the Bulbagarden Discord server. so you wouldn't need an hm slave. best hm slave? Topic Archived; Page 1 of 2; Last ; More Topics from this Board. But the introduction of Fairy-types, and the change in Steel-type’s matchup, and Glacia dropping Sealeo in ORAS, all kind of hindered Fighting-type’s coverage. ago. This is the place where you can give your Pokémon to. It is kind of an HM slave, but one that can hold its own in battle. PokeCommunityHey! Your account is not linked! Get you trainer hat by linking your account here!However, Bibarel, being Normal-Water type, is easily the most useful HM slave as it can learn every 5th generation HM except for fly. Please remember to follow the manual of style and code of conduct at all times. I'd say a Krabby is a better HM slave than the previously suggested Gyarados or Lapras- those are much better used for fighting and much harder to come by, while Krabby are relatively common in the wild. View source. 10 hm slave heartgold: Editor Recommended #Azumarill is the bulky water-type of the team, and another check against water/ice that could threaten tyranitar and garchomp. The only Mon that makes for a better HM slave is Mew, but it's a mythical with limited distribution, so unless you use cheats, you can't get one in any of the games that had HMs. A term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is used for navigational support through the use of field moves—generally those taught by Hidden Machines. These Legendaries are just HM slaves. If you get good at making excuses, it's difficult to get good at anything else. The best Pokémon is one who is obtained at the start of the game, can OHKO enemies off the bat, and only loses 1 HP when damaged. Both can learn Cut and Strength, however Furret can learn Surf in addition to this. Bidoof evolves into Bibarel at level 15, making him the most versatile HM slave. Also you may want an HM slave to carry the weak HMs like Rock-smash and Cut. 1 Answer. A good slave is Spinarak as it can learn cut and flash, thats usually the pokemon I use early, fly I usually use my bird party member which is nearly always HootHoot or Noctowl. I mean Fly is a good move so it's not that bad to have it on a Pokémon. Symph. Cut: SS Anne (from the Captain) Fly: Route 16 (from girl north of Cycling Road entrance)You just need to spread Fly and Cut among the rest of your party. Paint Your Own Stepping Stones Craft Kit for Kids, Garden Lawn Decorative Stone Painting Kit – Owl by Bingo Castle. HM Locations. Bibarel and Tropious are my HM slaves, and they too can learn all the HMs between them. Pokemon X/Y - Best HM SlaveBEST HM Slave you can get in Pokemon X/Y because you get it very early on or from wonder trade easily!pokemon sun/moon best hm sla. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. Below are all the Pokémon from Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald with the HMs they can learn. 3DS FC: 3024-5271-7559. Surf, Strength, Cut, and Rock Smash. Rolling with Gengar and lover of Tinkaton. It’s kind of funny that the Box Legendaries are just HM Slaves and further more they are just past and future versions of a bicycle. Best HM slave (s) for each gen? Discussion We all know the scorn of the moves your Pokemon must know to advance in the region, infamously bad ones like Cut and Rock smash and the better of the bunch like surf, fly and waterfall. You get this Pokémon very early in-game and it can learn all the HM's except Waterfall (not sure. . Bibaral is the GOAT HM slave. This giant jellyfish is known throughout the franchise as one of the most annoying creatures as it shows up in almost every game. can he be found early game? 2. ~Waterfall. c_s_tadsen ( Expert ) - 2 years ago - report. ManicOwl • 11 yr. 3. Both can learn Cut and Strength, however Furret can learn Surf in addition to this. This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM. chopperbyrne 14 years ago #2. he can learn rock smash, rock climb, strengh,. My Pickup Linoone. The other Gyarados I use it as an elemental slave - attacks are an.